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well i'm tom arbonne in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture. wayne la pierre and the n.r.a. are on the wrong side of the argument but when it comes to gun control believe it or not there's a lot to learn from their devotion to their cause more on that just a moment also revelations about the n.s.a.'s surveillance program are breaking down old barriers and creating new alliances on capitol hill will this brave new form of bipartisanship be enough to protect our constitutional rights from the power of the surveillance state that and more with michigan congressman john conyers and the special two part interview later on in the show and on sunday fox news is chris wallace the war in the g.o.p.
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the by threatening to shut down the government to defund obamacare they were shooting in the hostage almost didn't say so but shooting the hostage is nothing new for republicans they've been doing it for the past thirty plus years i'll explain in tonight's daily take. you need to know this americans who care about our constitutional liberties must defend the first amendment as aggressively as wayne la pierre defends the second amendment the first amendment enshrines freedom of the press and press freedom is not even qualified with the word regulated like guns are in the second amendment freedom of the prosperous absolute the news first broke back in may the justice department seized the phone records of associated press reporters and track the movements of fox news's james rosen who is a great opportunity for reporters and news outlets of all types to. and the
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stronger protections for freedom of the press that liberty requires the public was outraged and big name senators of both parties including new york's chuck schumer and south carolina's lindsey graham proposed new laws to protect journalists from prosecution that bipartisan push for a media shield law has now it is snagged and it's hit that snag because establishment democrats like california senator dianne feinstein don't think bloggers and tweeters should have the same first amendment rights as reporters who work for big corporate outlets like fox or the new york times and its current form the senate's media shield law requires the justice department to give any journalist forty five days as up when they want to snow. a journalist according to the pending bill is anyone who has a primary intent to investigate events and procure material sounds pretty simple right well not for dianne feinstein of california senator told mcclatchy that she's worried that the word journalist is so vague that the proposed media shield law
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could provide special privileges to those who are not reporters at all in senator feinstein's opinion and yes this is her real opinion real reporters have salaries in other words they have to work for official news agencies acceptable to the washington establishment senator feinstein wants to make sure that the media shield law. doesn't save wiki leaks from prosecution however if congress were to limit the media shield protections only to a journalists that would leave any number of bloggers tweeters and independent citizen journalists open to prosecution by the federal government just because they don't take home a paycheck for their take home pay check from the wrong organization this is just was the rise of the internet and digital journalism anyone who wants to can be part of the press any time you don't need special qualifications or a graduate degree just a good news sense and hard work if the purpose of the press is to inform the public and bloggers and twitter users and even wiki leaks for that matter fit the bill i
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mean i get paid for what they do but what they do is an essential part of the democratic process an essential check on the powers of government and essential to american liberty independent freelance blogs and organizations like wiki leaks are also arguably even better news sources than traditional media outlets because they are compromised by corporate sponsors and are open to anyone who can break a story regardless of what senator feinstein might think about its legitimacy the news media is here to stay and a reporter's ability to cultivate and meet with sources needs to be protected whether they're published in the wall street journal or on a twitter feed the constitution our nation's founding document mentions only one industry by name and that industry is the press for the founding fathers there was no institution more important for a democratic society than a free and independent media right there at the top of the bill of rights they wrote that congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech or of the
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press thomas jefferson the author of the declaration of independence and our third president once said that he would rather have newspapers without a government than a government without newspapers if jefferson were alive today he'd probably say the same things about blogs wiki leaks and twitter in the first amendment to keep us free we must must fight to. keep the definition of the press as all inclusive as possible if we want to protect the rights of all journalists regardless of their a greater lack thereof our fight for the freedom of the press must be as relentless as the n.r.a. is fight to own a firearm for more on this i'm joined now by craig barrett president and c.e.o. of the free press craig welcome hi tom good to be here great to see you so you heard my rant i'm curious your thoughts first of all on this very broad brush that i'm using to paint the press well you know i think it's absolutely right and i think the problem with this shield law as it's written is that it tries to protect a profession instead of
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a practice and what we do need to do is protect acts of journalism whoever's can committing them that doesn't mean everybody with a twitter account is doing journalism but those who are using twitter those who are using their cell phone those who are independent they're the people that need the protection the most they're the ones who don't have big institutions standing behind them when the justice department or the n.s.a. or whoever it might be comes knocking so that should be our priority and you know so i really endure sure rant because i think that what we need is the public to get involved it's going to be journalists are going to save themselves it's going to be an informed public demanding these kind of changes demanding a broader shield law demanding press freedom that is going to protect the press which in turn if it's really doing its job should be protecting us by holding our corporate and government leaders accountable i think that's where this debate needs to go not around you know just the new york times or just fox news but how do we protect those acts of journalism who ever is committing them i think it's a very important distinction between the behavior and you know whether or not the
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person has particular credentials or paycheck and in fact i mean people say twitter you know really you're going to go all the way down to one hundred forty four character twitter i don't think that the arab spring particular in tunisia would have happened without twitter or the arab acquittal well and these are the new tools right so what we need to look. that is protecting the rights and then whatever tools go with them so previously it was the printing press then it was a website now it's twitter now it's your cellphone if it's being used to expose injustice if it's being used to get information out there that those in power don't want out there i mean that's the very definition of journalism the very definition of the kind of journalism we should be protecting and if congress is serious about doing that it has to be a broader piece of legislation it has to be one that's not just looking out for the new york times and fox news that's simply not good enough those guys are going to have options to protect them but look we need to protect them too there's a new york times reporter right now threatening to go to jail because he doesn't
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want to give up his source he shouldn't be put in that position but neither should marcy wheeler an independent blogger who's doing something neither should somebody who's breaking stories on the edward snowden case or any number of examples especially that local level where the pressures might even be worse exposing police brutality or other kinds of documents and information that are getting out there if that's journalism of journalism is being done then it's journalism that should be protected so dianne feinstein is very clearly trying to define the profession rather than the behavior absolutely action and i'm curious what you've learned about what other members of congress might be thinking in these terms and if anybody has come to that eureka that you have here of disentangling the two i mean i think that there's a lot of people who have journalism degrees and are working in journalistic institutions who are not journalists you know they're bureaucrats or paper pushers or whatever and on the other hand like i said i think that there are people out there who are getting no paycheck at all and are tweeting from from the bradley
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manning trial who are journalists i think that's absolutely right and i think when it comes to congress now there are some former journalist in congress and we need to be talking to them there are also a lot of people trying to push this narrow sort of elite definition of journalism you know i think actually senator schumer and his staff are trying to get closer to the right thing here and now they're getting pressure from their own colleagues in their own part. that said we're seeing a shift on capitol hill where much of this do you think is being driven by the hysteria around wiki leaks the fear that somehow they're going to decriminalize weiqi leaks and that's going to leave the obama administration standing out there you know whistling in the wind probably about ninety nine percent i think that i think a lot of this has to do with oh my gosh are we going to take an action that could somehow legitimize wiki leaks and if you're a member of the intelligence committee if you are working very hard right now to protect the national security establishment that is a very frightening idea but i think wiki leaks just like any other should be judged
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on whether or not it is committing acts of journalism you know professor banker down at the bradley manning trial made a very powerful case that wiki leaks absolutely must be considered part of the fourth estate in that when it's doing journalistic acts when it's producing journalism you know i don't think that's going to be the lead talking point for the proponents of this bill probably but i do think that its opponents are very much looking at this free flow of information information that they can't control and are very nervous but of course as citizens our interest is how do we get the information we need to hold our leaders at all and that and that very adversarial process was exactly what thomas jefferson you read some of his letters from the time in his first couple years as presidency he was in agony i mean he was just being ripped apart in the newspapers particularly by john adams buddies and and yet he was still saying he was still holding to this idea that i'd rather have a press that rips me apart than a total press or no press and it seems to me like
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a lot of that has been lost in these days of of corporate media and and you know toe the line and all that and i think we have lost a sense of that and you know it's it breaks through every once in a while big exposures from watergate or you know the cointelpro investigations in the seventy's but then very often things sort of move back toward this conversation but we're at this. moment when things are really transforming when the power of the press is shifting that's a very exciting time but it's one why we now need to look at things like federal legislation to protect the acts of journalism because these independent outlets don't have floyd abrams backing them up they don't have the new york times they don't have rupert murdoch or roger ailes you know they're lucky maybe if they're keeping the lights on but that might be the person who breaks the biggest stories so what are happening so what our viewers should be doing right now is contacting their two senators and saying we need to protect acts of journalism as much as we need to protect journal that's absolutely right i think if they make that call you will see the shift happening we're seeing a new awareness on capitol hill look at the vote
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a very close vote in the house last week about defunding the n.s.a. look at people are hearing about the public's concern over civil liberties this press freedom piece has to absolutely be at the center of that and the only way it's going to happen the head of the associated press isn't going to do it alone the new york times is going to do it alone it's going to take public engagement and involvement to secure and to ensure that press freedom that we all need it's up to us thanks so much john keep up the great work. coming up for decades joseph coney as a waged a reign of terror on the people of central africa but that's not stopping them from trying to rebuild their society after the break i'll talk to actress activist melissa fitzgerald about how a group of ugandan teenagers and american actors are using theater to heal their shattered communities.
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the best of the rest of the news last spring the viral video coney twenty twelve captivated audiences with a syrian portrayal of joseph koni the leader of the ugandan guerrilla group the lord's resistance army the directors and producers of that film hoped it would draw enough attention to coney and his crimes at the international community would take action and finally bring him to justice for over a year later tony and the lord's resistance army are still terrorizing the countryside of east and central africa but that's not stopping the people of uganda from trying to rebuild their shattered communities i asked your group of fourteen ugandan teenagers some of whom were former child soldiers for corney's army work with a crew of american actors to create a theater program to tell their stories their collaboration is the subject of the
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new documentary after coni staging home here's a clip from the trailer. i think i've been enough for now. but down right now i mean i didn't know i was made . national. to go they don't assume medical groups would like to announce it i made a few days. after i don't yes before my values well. i'm very glad i did you find especially. right now. i know. one thing. i'm joined now by the producer of after
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coma. hope actress and activist melissa fitzgerald melissa welcome thank you tom thank you thanks for joining us you you heard my description of the film. how did you get involved in this how did it start how did this come about and was that description act well it absolutely is accurate i mean there were fourteen teenagers living in war torn northern uganda who agreed to participate in a theater program with a group of american actors and a playwright and and filmmakers and i had had the opportunity and the good fortune to be able to volunteer in northern uganda prior to doing this project and i was really struck by what i saw when i arrived in northern uganda and i wanted to do something more and go back and so fortunately i have a lot of friends who who wanted to help and participate and i talked to a friend of mine who's a wonderful producer katie fox and she's my producing partner on this project and david acard who had been doing a theater program with at risk teens in los angeles with me for many years and they
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both agreed to come on board and we created this project we wanted to do something that would not only tell the stories and bring the stories to audiences worldwide but also where. we could put something back and not just take stories out so we really wanted to participate and do a theater program storytelling can be incredibly compelling incredibly communicative and incredibly healing what was your experience of watching what was your experience of their experience of these teenagers who were visiting in some cases some pretty horrific stuff well fortunately we had a child protection officers that were provided for us by international rescue committee and international medical corps our partners on this project so. when things came up we had professionals to support us in dealing with that and why ching them go through what they went through and being able to. not only tell their
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stories through theater and through improvisational work which which we did with them but also to share it with their community and have their voices be heard by their community i think was incredibly powerful and. having the opportunity to be known as something other than what they were known for before being able to stand up and and they were empowered to educate the community and we asked them what do you want your community to know and to learn what do you want what story do you want to tell and they came up with the topics it was definitely youth and youth driven that's powerful stuff we have a couple of clips from the cell but how great a question about clinton. was he. was so.
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good. to us know it's us but. how many of these how many of these kids have actually been in combat seen the horrors as a child i'm not sure exactly the number because we never directly asked them those questions we were very concerned about re traumatizing the teens and all the improvisational work we did was not you know tell us what happened to you it was what story would you you know here's a scenario in you and from them so i would say approximately half. had seen that and you know sadly even since we return two of the teenagers of the fourteen we worked with have died and you know i. one of the reasons we made this film was to alert audiences to what's happening in northern uganda in central africa so that we can do something to stop it and there are so many opportunities right now
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and you know we've had the good fortune of working with the enough project which is a wonderful organization and their opportunities to take action right now on their website and also invisible children who did kone two thousand and twelve and so much has happened and there's been so much movement in a good direction for these young people to rebuild their lives and to capture kone and i really think you know that's where a lot of our energy is going now is capturing kone capturing his top commanders and also encouraging sort of a top down approach but also encouraging some of the combatants to return home with a coming home message that's being delivered through flyers that helicopters are delivering and safe villages that are established for them to come back to but i think things like theater and opportunities for education and all of the things that help people rebuild their lives are so important and so essential and we can't forget about doing those two most powerful and transformational stuff here's
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another clip that shows a young woman who was in the field or in the ploy that came before they. went. so how has the community responded to. it it was really remarkable to see over a thousand people turned up to support them and to and to see the plays and you could see in the faces of the children in the audience how proud they were of their friends and the adults and it was remarkable and you know sco vs says i am now strong and i think that that is hearing your own voice having it heard by others is such a powerful thing and storytelling i think can be transformational and i just hope that not only will the people of northern uganda grow and learn from these stories
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but that all of us worldwide will do what we can and make sure that these atrocities stop happening and and take action to do god's work is frankly it's so much. earlier i had a chance to sit down with congressman john conyers u.s. representative from michigan's thirteenth congressional district one of the only two active members of congress who voted for the voting rights act back in one thousand nine hundred sixty five representative congress conyers is a forty eight year veteran of the u.s. house of representatives and one of the founding members of the congressional black caucus a fierce advocate for civil liberties he was along with his fellow michigan congressman republican just in amman one of the authors of the proposal to defund the national security agency's metadata collection program that was narrowly defeated in the house of representatives last month i started my conversation with congressman conyers by asking him about his number one legislative priority as
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a michigan representative jobs. you have said that your number one legislator purty right now is jobs h.r. one thousand can you tell us about this well essentially of all the things that i would love to accomplish as a thought or legislator would be to create an economy where everybody's working. for a number of reasons obviously a person who is working is the person who is going towards some kind of fulfillment he's sustaining him so or her so. it's also good for the national economy. because it helps move us more quickly out of this recession that we've been working your way. it's also important in that it provides. for lot of
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people. hell in terms of small businesses being able to maintain themselves or for people to actually go into small business that's a very big chunk of our economy and so for all those reasons. we keep pushing toward that and there's no reason why the most powerful wealthy this economy in history can accomplish that i absolutely agree and and i. how is the progress of this what we're moving along at a nice clip. i have a lot of international labor union supporting this. which i'm very pleased and then i'm trying to get the civil rights groups are with me on this and
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i'm trying to get the clergy. i find in many of our communities across the country the religious institutions are very helpful in promoting this concept as well it seems that at times that we're revisiting franklin roosevelt's second bill of rights that he never said you know six exactly everybody should have the right to a job and everybody should have the right to health care are also working out exactly universal health care is obviously the only way to go there's so much profit taking in the health care industry that we got to realize that it's more important that everybody have a basic. human rights to whatever health care they actually need and so house resolution six seventy six exactly h r six seven six i've been
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doing this these two bills in various. iterations for quite a while. but we're moving up along and i feel good about the progress that's great. kind of a medicare for all sort of growing threat and that's what we call it is better for a. minute a chair six seven six medicare for all universal health care or your for that referred to it on the air many times medicare part for everybody and i think it's. more of my conversation with congressman john conyers right after the break.
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welcome back earlier i sat down with michigan congressman john conyers to talk about a number of issues including the future of the voting rights act how to rebuild the middle class and the congressman support for defunding the n.s.a.'s mehta data collection program here's part two of that conversation. us republican michigan republican congressman justin amash have led an effort to put some fourth amendment constraints perhaps i'm not sure that's the right word leave it to you around the n.s.a. is gathering of intelligence on americans who are not criminals and your thoughts on this well and what you're doing to our show. from someone who took the records and reveal them we've we find that. every
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phone. call is recorded it. who received it who made it. how long it lasted and now just the other day some additional information came out about it and we think this. incredible collections of huge numbers. of. telecommunications information is totally and more and it's like. saying well here's a needle but you need a haystack to make it more fun and so. we would just gather up everything i i i think this is a. turbo way to. protect us
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against terrorists activities and the one word that's in the patriot act section two fifteen calls for relevant. relationship to a crime or an investigation and what we do is we just take everybody's. numbers and where they stack them i came even begin to imagine but we know we almost won that amendment by the way we came seven votes within a victory. but now. we're we're moving to create a bill that would require us to know more of what's what they intelligence and secret agencies and law enforcement are all doing
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. because we now know that some of. some of their leaders have intentionally misled us and it's too bad as a member of congress you have been intentionally misled by one of our intelligence agencies more more than one we have. we have statements from. general clapper that say if we don't cause mass information like this. course the truth is that they do and there may be more other things they're doing that we go. but. i received. we received a bipartisan vote that was huge much larger than i had any reason to
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suspect and there was a very vigorous establishment campaign against it and. we encourage a great deal and we're moving forward on this arena because we don't need to become a surveillance state to protect our liberties that's not a trade of. we think. there are there there are secrets and there should be some appropriate secrecy but it's got to be relevant the can't be just because we have the technology to get anybody's name and number and who calls them in who they call. that's part of law enforcement for c.g. i say it is. you are one of two members still in the house of representatives who
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voted for the voting rights act and back in the day and we're also coming up on the fiftieth anniversary of the march on washington d.c. martin luther king's famous speech. on august twenty eighth at the end of this month and you were there you know i'm curious your thoughts. on that general arc of things how how things have moved how your thoughts on the supreme court taking a hatchet to part of the voting rights act and whether congress is actually going to do anything to restore it. well. there's a. feeling that we've made tremendous progress and we have a long way to go. but at the same time we keep wrestling with the same issues of race. fairness and justice and so we find that.
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the supreme court has recently way. into decisions as citizens united and shelby county versus. holder both both of these both of these cases. are. just outrageous and terms of kicking a hole in the voter and the voter rights particularly show becoming a case because they know are forcing those that want to make voting. less burdensome. on citizens. we have to go out and tackle the unfairness. in equities the discrimination the.
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redistricting the moving of voting places from one place to the other and and a whole host of things and the ink wasn't dry on that decision before . certain states started already. made making of the show i.d. a requirement of seniors which. you know how to handle the costs are also. not helpful. we find that in case in state after state texas. has done some things that we think are going to make things more difficult then you ask yourself why. what are the motives behind those that would
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want to make voting the most precious right of. a democratic society why would they want to make it harder well it's to keep as many people of modest means of minorities be the ratio. or. economic. they they want as few people to be able to vote as possible and to me that's an undemocratic. attitude and we've got to fight it and fortunately we've got a president and the attorney general eric holder that are willing
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to do the best of what they've got now it's true that they are not. who's covered the coverage part of section four. but. that won't stop us from we know where the problems are and we're going to try to make sure that the department of justice has the resources to fight these matters whenever and wherever they arise. the in fact back in one thousand nine hundred during the reagan campaign one of the fellows running that was paul weyrich had and he was also the co-founder of the american legislative exchange council alec which has been sponsoring these want to build a nice to provide real life and he wrote famously said they never quite candidly are leveraging election goes up as the road out hochul scariest out like this is. this is
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a long time strategy. is this really do you think they have a principle strategy of the republican party to win to win elections. not know all of the republicans think this way. many of them. the growing number of them don't but it is a conservative strategy which. many parts of the leadership of the republican party support or at least they don't oppose so you have to figure out. what's really going on but. the whole idea of making voting more difficult. there's very little fraud they can go on and voting days. and. i don't i don't want to know all the safeguards but when we when
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you see patterns. of practice that results in making it more difficult. for minority groups to protest the pay were back to pre-construction days i mean that's that was one of the big things is that you couldn't vote you are in this segregated society and we thought brown vs the board of education knocked all that out and. to some extent it has because these problems still persisting. we have to redouble our efforts in the twenty first century to make sure that everybody has. fettered way
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a path to express who they want to govern them at the local and national levels and that's that's sort of sadly flexion to come to but that is the nature of what we're in at this present moment congressman john conyers thank you so much for what a pleasure to be with you again. coming up while republicans valid as shut down the federal government over funding to obamacare many are asking whether republicans actually have the guts to shoot the hostage or no course they do more on that and tonight's guilty take.
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the breaking news. alexander's family cry tears of joy and a great thing. that. he had read in a court of law found alive there's a story made for a movie is playing out in real life. the a.
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so sometimes you know and you know sometimes you know what you don't know and sometimes is the firesign theater says everything you know is wrong and i don't think you know what you want to hear your right. to say that you're right. and you go what is wrong. climate change is one of the greatest threats that our planet has ever faced and now a new research suggests that besides driving an increase in severe weather events climate change may also be responsible for an increase in human aggression worldwide so if you think that global warming and gun violence are two pressing but totally unrelated issues and everything you know is wrong joining me now is professor solomon shop assistant professor of public policy at the university of california at berkeley professor welcome. thanks for having me tell me about your study how was this conducted and and what did you find. well in our study we
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actually were examining previous research that's been conducted by over one hundred ninety researchers around the world and what we did is we collected the sixty most rigorous studies we could find from a variety of fields including psychology criminology economics political science archaeology and what we found is that around the world and throughout history. the evidence suggests that shifts in the climate are associated with changes in human conflict and in general the overarching pattern tends to be that shift towards warmer temperatures in the modern world as well as shifts towards higher rainfall or lower rainfall depending if what you're sort of baseline level of rainfall is. seem to be associated with increased levels of conflict at both the interpersonal level so that's we're talking about murders assaults rape domestic violence as well as group level conflicts things like riots political violence and civil conflict is
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is that because climate change changes patterns of for example the ability to grow food or the ability of people to live in particular areas and so it causes people to move and come into conflict with other other groups or is it because there's something inherent about a warmer climate drives a physiological response or psychological response. so the truth is that those are all hypotheses that are currently in the running we don't actually have enough information to know exactly what the mechanism is there are hypotheses there's evidence that it does affect our psychological processes and how we understand one another actions but as you mentioned it also affects economic conditions things like the labor market food prices and migration and those are all thought to play an important role in generating human conflict. you know we're currently in the position where medical researchers were in in the one nine hundred thirty s. when they couldn't use statistical evidence to identify smoking as the proximate
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cause of lung cancer they couldn't quite identify exactly what the causal mechanism was and at the cellular cellular level or chemical level why a lead to be and so we're sort of in that position now where future research will hopefully help us untangle that the different mechanisms you supplied as well as many other mechanisms that are sort of have been proposed by other researchers what are some of those are the mechanisms. also there is the one idea for example is that labor markets really matter and so climatic shifts can change what underlying economic conditions like for example if you live in an agrarian society high temperatures tend to be bad for crop production and so if if sort of the incentive to participate in the formal productive labor market declines because the climate deteriorates then there's. then it looks relatively more appealing to go participate in other perhaps more violent activities so if you imagine someone trying to recruit an organized army to oppose another government to propose to
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oppose the existing government it's actually cheaper to hire those people if the rest of the economy is performing poorly what what is the message that you would like this. research to carry to the rest of the world. i think what we're trying to do is understand how the environment affects our relationships with one another and what we're seeing is that climate conditions have a pervasive effect on. not just a matter of us and how we and whether or not we are directly affected by temperature it's also how we treat one another we think that moving forward we need to conceptualize the impact of climate change is something that can really fundamentally alter certain relationships in society and that the costs to climate change tend to be higher than you previously thought professor solomon schoen thank you so much for being with us tonight thanks for having me.
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on sunday's edition of fox news sunday host chris wallace asked heritage foundation president and former senator jim de mint if the republican party was ready to shoot the hostage and shut down the federal government over funding obamacare take a look. at some leading republicans say this is crazy tom cole says it's suicidal richard burr your former colleague in the senate says it is quote the dumbest idea i've ever heard what are they missing but senator you know what they say is you don't take a hostage unless you're prepared to shoot them and if you're going to go down this road are you prepared to shut down the government because you're the democrats are not jim de mint refused to answer chris wallace's question but the real answer is
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the republicans have been shooting the hostage ever since president obama was first inaugurated their hostage taking plans were laid back in the night of february january twentieth two thousand and nine while the president and many others in washington d.c. were attending his first inaugural balls on that night in a private room at the caucus room restaurant in washington d.c. republican leaders plotted to intentionally sabotage. and undermine the obama presidency at every turn no matter how much damage it did to the american people remember at that time seven hundred thousand people a month were losing their jobs and the american economy was falling in the most horrible tailspin since the great depression and the republicans wanted to keep it that way as robert draper document it is book do not ask what good we do inside the u.s. house of representatives on the guest list for that for our invitation only meeting
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where republican congressman eric cantor paul ryan and kevin mccarthy pete sessions and jeb hensarling pete hoekstra and dan longer and republican senators jon kyl now heritage foundation president jim de mint then a republican senator tom coburn john ensign and bob corker the whole thing was orchestrated by republican propaganda extraordinary frank luntz newt gingrich was also in attendance and on my radio show a few months ago he bragged that the purpose of the dinner meeting was to come up with a plan to sabotage the obama presidency you were quoted in the book as saying that . after this dinner you'll remember this is the day the seeds of two thousand and twelve were sown is that all accurate well in part or so were you guys insurgents against the obama presidency well the fact is not the opposition party ought to sit
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down and try to figure out how to get back in power and that's why they're the opposition party they're not going to back in power they might as well switch parties and join the incumbent party during that dinner the republican conspirators vowed to bring congress to a standstill regardless of how badly congressional inaction would hurt the already hurting american economy and people in essence they pledge to each other to obstruct filibuster and block any legislation that might improve the economy and thus might make president obama look good congress. pete sessions told the national journal in march of two thousand and nine that the republican sabotage plan hatched at the caucus room restaurant would borrow a page from the tactics of taliban terrorists he said that taliban insurgency we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the taliban insurgency is the way they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person's entire process and these taliban are an example of how you go about to
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change a person from their messaging to their operations to their front line message and we need to understand that insurgency may be required when dealing with democrats on the other side of texas republican went on to say that if the democrats do not give us those options are opportunities then we will become insurgency i think insurgency is a mindset and an attitude looking back five years later we can see that the united in unyielding opposition that congressman mccarthy called for is succeeding in harming america and thus preventing president obama from having any significant progressive successes just as democratic congressman charlie rangle in an interview with the daily beast published just last friday the new york congressman said that republicans in the house and he's there and watching them are doing more damage to american competitiveness in the competitiveness and to the american people than any terrorist organization could wrangle told the daily beast that what is happening is
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sabotage terrorists couldn't do a better job than the republicans are doing in congressman rangle is right republicans on capitol hill have been relentless in blocking any legislation that might improve our economy and thus improve president obama's popularity since president obama took office republicans have filibustered a wide variety of bills that would have helped the american people and our economy these include president obama's jobs bill and see palosi as american jobs closing of loopholes. preventing of outsourcing act which would have prevented the outsourcing of jobs overseas and the small business jobs in tax relief act which encourage small businesses to hire by giving them temporary tax credits just last week republicans vowed to block president obama's attempts to cut corporate tax rates something republicans are said they wanted for years because to let him do that would give him one small victory republicans have also worked very hard to tear down america they've refused to increase funding to our nation's crumbling
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infrastructure leaving our country stuck in the nineteenth century or the third world they voted to slash billions of dollars from social safety net programs like food stamps and medicaid and radically slashed unemployment insurance and in the most blatant form of shooting the hostage republicans pushed the devastating sequester on the american people and when they did john boehner bragged that he got ninety nine percent of everything he wanted since boehner sequester went into effect millions of americans have felt its impact in michigan alone federal unemployment checks have fallen by ten point seven percent since late march sucking as much as one hundred fifty dollars a month out of the average person's budget in california contra costa county meals on wheels program has been forced to cut its budget by five point one percent and scale back the number of meals they bring to shut in disabled and elderly poor people meanwhile as the sequester cuts continue to ravage our country republicans
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are refusing to support president obama's most recent jobs bill which would have put millions of americans to work and would help solve our nation's poverty epidemic every president excuse me ever since president obama's first inauguration on the night of january twentieth two thousand and nine republicans have made it clear that they're very comfortable with shooting the hostage it seems that even chris wallace is beginning to realize that when it comes to republicans being willing to shoot the hostage it's really not a matter of if. it's a matter of how much longer they're going to keep doing. and that's the way it is tonight monday august fifth two thousand and thirteen and don't forget democracy begins with you get out there get active tag your we'll see tomorrow.
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